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Title:
SP 4-10-2 #5000 - Souther Pacific
Description:
Massive example of a 1925 Alco-Schenectady oil burning locomotive built for the Southern Pacific. Specifics - class SP-1, 63.5" drivers, 225 psi boilier pressure, 25x32" outside cylinders (2), 25x28" inside cylinders, engine weight 445,000 lb, tractive effort of 86,589 lb. Drury (1993) notes that they were too rigid for the curves snaking through the Donner Pass, where they were first tried. After relocation to the Sunset Route east of Los Angeles, the 4-10-2s ran until the mid-1950s. It is there - between Roseville and Summit, Calif on a 2 1/2%, 80-mile grade - "...the engines were remarkably successful because the operating condtions prevented excessive speeds and the even torque of the three cylinders prevented undue stalling at low speeds." No exact date, location or photographer was listed.
Photo Date:
6/1/1950
Upload Date:
3/24/2015 7:33:57 AM
Location:
Unknown, CA
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5000(4-10-2)
Views:
1586
Comments:
1
Title:
SP 4-10-2 #5000 - Southern Pacific
Description:
Here is an older b&w reprint of Southern Pacific 4-10-2 #5000 at an unidentified locaiton, possibly Roseville, CA, where this class of locomotives frequented on its travels over Donner Pass. Date is approximate and unfortunately no photographer was listed for the photo.
Photo Date:
6/1/1950
Upload Date:
8/30/2015 7:05:48 AM
Location:
Unknown, CA
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5000(4-10-2)
Views:
1502
Comments:
1
Title:
SP 4-10-2 #5005 - Southern Pacific
Description:
The fireman of this 1925 Alco-Schenectady built "Overland-type" (or better known as "Southern Pacific-type") locomotive looks ready to pull out with its freight in tow from an unidentified yard, possibly Roseville, CA. Specifics - SP-1 class, 63.5" drivers, oil burner, generated a boiler pressure of 225 psi for its three sets of cylinders, an engine weight of 445,000 lb and produced a tractive effort of 86,589 lb. According to several resources, the locomotive was an excellent performer at speeds between 30-35 mph but suffered maintenance problems at higher speeds and too rigid to perform well on the sinuous curves of Donner pass, but excelled on the Sunset Route east of LA. Date and location are approximations. No photogrpaher listed.
Photo Date:
6/1/1950
Upload Date:
5/30/2014 8:36:08 AM
Location:
Unknown, CA
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam,Action
Locomotives:
SP 5005(4-10-2)
Views:
1074
Comments:
0
Title:
SP Alco 4-10-2 #5021 (Stored)
Description:
SP 5021. Later to the Pomona Fair grounds.
Photo Date:
11/27/1975
Upload Date:
5/17/2020 10:35:25 AM
Location:
Los Angeles, CA
Author:
Steven Vincent
Categories:
Locomotives:
SP 5021(4-10-2)
Views:
864
Comments:
0
Title:
SP 5021
Description:
SP 5021 is on display at the LA County Fairgrounds in Pomona.
Photo Date:
4/29/1976
Upload Date:
7/20/2024 9:02:59 PM
Location:
Pomona, CA
Author:
Ron Hawkins
Categories:
Roster,Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5021(4-10-2)
Views:
47
Comments:
0
Title:
Gauges in the #5021
Description:
Photo Date:
9/21/2007
Upload Date:
11/24/2008 9:42:57 PM
Location:
Pomona, CA
Author:
Shelley H.
Categories:
Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5021(4-10-2)
Views:
293
Comments:
1
Title:
#5021
Description:
Photo Date:
9/21/2008
Upload Date:
10/9/2008 11:09:03 PM
Location:
Pomona, CA
Author:
Shelley H.
Categories:
Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5021(4-10-2)
Views:
261
Comments:
0
Title:
5021 sitting on display next to a signal display
Description:
Photo Date:
9/13/2009
Upload Date:
12/22/2009 2:28:59 PM
Location:
Pomona, CA
Author:
Shelley H.
Categories:
Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5021(4-10-2)
Views:
285
Comments:
2
Title:
SP 5021
Description:
Photo Date:
8/1/2010
Upload Date:
9/18/2010 12:50:31 PM
Location:
Pomona, CA
Author:
Eric Rodriguez
Categories:
Locomotives:
SP 5021(4-10-2)
Views:
3184
Comments:
1
Title:
SP 4-10-2 #5023 - Southern Pacific
Description:
Unique 3 cylinder and 4-10-2 wheel configuration makes this a rare locomotive. Only SP and UP tried this model - successful for SP (who called it a Southern Pacific type) but not for UP (who called it an Overland type). SP 4-10-2 #5023 was built by ALCo-Schenectady in May of 1926 (serial #66795). After nearly 27 years of service, the loco was "vacated "in November of 1953 and scrapped a month later at the Sacramento Shops. Specs - oil burner, 63" drivers, impressive 225 psi boiler pressure, 25x28" and 28x32" cylinders, engine weight of 445,000 lb, tractive effort of 84,200 lb. Arthur B Johnson photo
Photo Date:
12/28/1946
Upload Date:
2/18/2023 5:12:59 AM
Location:
Indio, CA
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5023(4-10-2)
Views:
218
Comments:
0
Title:
SP 4-10-2 #5045 - Southern Pacific
Description:
This 1927 Alco-Schenectady built "Overland-type" (or better known as "Southern Pacific-type") locomotive sits in an unidentified yard, possibly Roseville, CA, awaiting its next orders. Specifics - SP-3 class, 63.5" drivers, oil burner, generated a boiler pressure of 225 psi for its three sets of cylinders, an engine weight of 445,000 lb and produced a tractive effort of 86,589 lb. According to several resources, the locomotive was an excellent performer at speeds between 30-35 mph but suffered maintenance problems at higher speeds and too rigid to perform well on the sinuous curves of Donner pass, but excelled on the Sunset Route east of LA. Date and location are approximations. No photogrpaher listed.
Photo Date:
6/1/1950
Upload Date:
5/30/2014 8:26:53 AM
Location:
Unknown, CA
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam
Locomotives:
SP 5045(4-10-2)
Views:
1168
Comments:
1
Title:
UP 5515 and UP 5090
Description:
Tom Gildersleeve set
Photo Date:
5/12/1950
Upload Date:
1/3/2024 5:36:43 AM
Location:
Cajon Summit, CA
Author:
Tom Gildersleeve
Categories:
Steam,Action
Locomotives:
UP 5515(2-10-2)
UP 5090(4-10-2)
Views:
136
Comments:
1
Title:
LA&SL #5092 & UP #1613
Description:
Scanned with an Epson V550 from a 35mm slide, brand is unknown.
Photo Date:
12/8/2014
Upload Date:
8/7/2016 9:19:08 PM
Location:
Victorville, CA
Author:
J. Lytle/Tom Gildersleeve Collection/Paul Frantz Collection
Categories:
Steam
Locomotives:
UP 5092(4-10-2)
UP 1613(FA1)
Views:
1295
Comments:
1
Title:
UP 5093 with broken rods
Description:
Tom Gildersleeve set
Photo Date:
4/6/1950
Upload Date:
1/3/2024 5:51:45 AM
Location:
Cajon Pass, CA
Author:
Tom Gildersleeve
Categories:
Steam,Action
Locomotives:
UP 5093(4-10-2)
Views:
163
Comments:
2
Title:
UP 4-10-2 #5094 - Union Pacific Overland
Description:
Battling a steep grade is the Alco-Brooks 4-10-2 #5094. Built in June of 1926 as Los Angeles & Salt Lake (LA&SL) #8803, it was rebuilt with two cylinders rather than the original three and renumbered 5094 when it entered the UP roster. Original specs - serial #66729, 63" drivers, 28x30" outside cylinders, 25X30 center cylinder, oil burner, engine weight of 4-5,700 lb, tractive effort of 72,400 lb.The loco was "vacated" in February of 1948. No location, date or photographer was given but the photo must have been taken after the 1942 renumbering and before retirement in 1948. Spencer T2D (see comment below) helped out with identifying the location as Mormon Rock at Cajun Pass, CA. Thanks Spencer for your help!
Photo Date:
6/1/1945
Upload Date:
3/12/2020 10:17:27 AM
Location:
Mormon Rocks Cajon P, CA
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Steam,Action
Locomotives:
UP 5094(4-10-2)
Views:
582
Comments:
2
Title:
UP 5095 on local
Description:
Tom Gildersleeve set
Photo Date:
5/20/1950
Upload Date:
3/11/2024 6:03:45 PM
Location:
Cajon Pass, CA
Author:
Tom Gildersleeve
Categories:
Steam,Action
Locomotives:
UP 5095(4-10-2)
Views:
89
Comments:
0
Title:
UP 4-10-2 #5099
Description:
Originally built by Alco-Brooks as 3 cylinder UP 4-10-2 #8808 (serial #66734, class FTT-1), it proved to be less successful than predicted so the UP shops rebuilt the loco in January of 1943 by removing the center cylinder and renumbering it UP 5099 (class FTT-1-2). Since the loco was scrapped in November of 1949 at Pocatello, ID, this may be one of the very last photos taken of it before the scrapper's torch reached it. Jack A. Pfeifer photo
Photo Date:
8/19/1948
Upload Date:
6/1/2022 7:44:34 AM
Location:
Pocatello, ID
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam
Locomotives:
UP 5099(4-10-2)
Views:
241
Comments:
1
Title:
UP 4-10-2 #8000 - Union Pacific
Description:
Nice action shot of the Alco-Brooks built 4-10-2 delivered to Union Pacific as #8000 in April of 1925. This configuration was called "Southern Pacifics" by most railroads except UP which labeled these "Overlands". Specs - builder #66169, FTT-1 class, 63" drivers, 210 psi boiler pressure, 3 cylinder design, engine weight of 404,000 lb, tractive effort of 77,917 lb. Note on the back of the photo states "54 cars, 10 mph" Otto Perry photo
Photo Date:
7/29/1928
Upload Date:
2/12/2017 8:01:45 AM
Location:
Laramie, WY
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Steam,Action
Locomotives:
UP 8000(4-10-2)
Views:
1459
Comments:
1
Title:
UP 4-10-2 #8804
Description:
Built by Alco-Brooks in May of 1926, this 3 cylinder variant was primarily used for the Los Angeles & Salt Lake Rwy. Union Pacific labeled the 4-10-2 wheel configuration as "Overland" rather than using the traditional label of "Southern Pacific' type for obvious reasons. The loco was not very successful and was rebuilt by the UP shops in April of 1942 to a two cylinders style and renumbered UP 5095. The rebuilt loco lasted until being scrapped in April of 1953 at Cheyenne, WY. Original specs - 63" drivers,210 psi boiler pressure, 25x30" high pressure cylinders, 25x28" low pressure center cylinder, engine weight of 404,000 lb, tractive effort of 77,917 lb. Unknown photographer
Photo Date:
7/31/1933
Upload Date:
6/1/2022 7:44:40 AM
Location:
Pocatello, ID
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam
Locomotives:
UP 8804(4-10-2)
Views:
270
Comments:
1
Title:
UP 4-10-2 #8807
Description:
The "long legged" UP 4-10-2 #8807 was built by Alco-Brooks in May of 1926 (serial #66733, class FTT-2. Although not particularly successful as a 3 cylinder variant, the loco was rebuilt by the UP shops. They removed the center cylinder and dropped the boiler pressure to 200 psi in the overhaul done in Jamuary of 1943. It was renumbered UP 5099. Both versions (labeled "Overland" by the UP) were used primarily in the LA&SL system. The rebuilt loco lasted until being scrapped in March of 1954 at Pocatello, ID. Original specs - 63" drivers,210 psi boiler pressure, 25x30" outside cylinders, 25x28" center cylinder, engine weight of 404,000 lb, tractive effort of 77,917 lb. Unknown photographer
Photo Date:
12/1/1939
Upload Date:
6/1/2022 7:44:50 AM
Location:
Yermo, CA
Author:
Gary Everhart
Categories:
Roster,Yard,Steam
Locomotives:
UP 8807(4-10-2)
Views:
280
Comments:
0
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